Comments on: The lessons of a PIM fail http://epistemicgames.org/eg/the-lessons-of-a-pim-fail/ building the future of education Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:24:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: David Williamson Shaffer http://epistemicgames.org/eg/the-lessons-of-a-pim-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-4923 David Williamson Shaffer Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:52:50 +0000 http://epistemicgames.org/eg/the-lessons-of-a-pim-fail/#comment-4923 Hi, Rick and Alan! Nice to hear from both of you! @Rick, I like your formulation (an ounce of cure...). Pithy as always. @Alan, I agree that the formulation in the pdf you link to is really interesting. Thanks for posting it. We'll never know precisely what was said at that particular meeting, of course--now more than a decade ago. But I think it was part of a discussion that was making a slightly different point than your PDF. Regardless, if I took the sentiment out of context I apologize! Thanks to both of you for adding to--and updating!--the record! Hi, Rick and Alan! Nice to hear from both of you!

@Rick, I like your formulation (an ounce of cure…). Pithy as always.

@Alan, I agree that the formulation in the pdf you link to is really interesting. Thanks for posting it. We’ll never know precisely what was said at that particular meeting, of course–now more than a decade ago. But I think it was part of a discussion that was making a slightly different point than your PDF. Regardless, if I took the sentiment out of context I apologize!

Thanks to both of you for adding to–and updating!–the record!

]]> By: Alan Kay http://epistemicgames.org/eg/the-lessons-of-a-pim-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-4886 Alan Kay Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:22:48 +0000 http://epistemicgames.org/eg/the-lessons-of-a-pim-fail/#comment-4886 Hi Rick, That's because I never said that "quote". It got changed to a mis-quote which doesn't make a lot of sense. The actual version of this that I use is found in this little essay: http://www.vpri.org/pdf/m2003001_human_cond.pdf Cheers, Alan Hi Rick,

That’s because I never said that “quote”. It got changed to a mis-quote which doesn’t make a lot of sense. The actual version of this that I use is found in this little essay:
http://www.vpri.org/pdf/m2003001_human_cond.pdf

Cheers,

Alan

]]> By: Rick Borovoy http://epistemicgames.org/eg/the-lessons-of-a-pim-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-4877 Rick Borovoy Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:25:03 +0000 http://epistemicgames.org/eg/the-lessons-of-a-pim-fail/#comment-4877 Excellent point.    It reminds me of our saying that, contrary to conventional wisdom, "an ounce of cure is often worth a pound of prevention"  In other words, if you're at risk of a bunch of low probability bad  things happening, it may be more efficient to wait to see what does happen, rather than bearing the cost of proactively addressing a broad range of potential threats.  Of course, it all depends on the risks and the costs, which is the point you're making. By the way, I have no recollection of saying that quote, but do have many fond memories of "back benching" at Alan Kay meetings. Excellent point.    It reminds me of our saying that, contrary to conventional wisdom, “an ounce of cure is often worth a pound of prevention”  In other words, if you’re at risk of a bunch of low probability bad  things happening, it may be more efficient to wait to see what does happen, rather than bearing the cost of proactively addressing a broad range of potential threats.  Of course, it all depends on the risks and the costs, which is the point you’re making.

By the way, I have no recollection of saying that quote, but do have many fond memories of “back benching” at Alan Kay meetings.

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